WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.370 --> 00:00:16.980 -So, what I'm going to do is I'm just going to start very quickly about how we can get started with the Aribi Method of Early Child Education. You're sharing this with all ecosystemities. 2 00:00:17.200 --> 00:00:21.989 -Okay, facing my discussions with her, she is ready to start. 3 00:00:22.170 --> 00:00:30.259 -Okay? The teachings are 2 hours weekly, or every 2 weeks. She will structure that, and over the 6 months. 4 00:00:30.850 --> 00:00:40.889 -Okay? There's certain tools that need to be sent over, because they've got the social brain map, and other things which have to be purchased. 5 00:00:41.010 --> 00:00:41.920 -Sit. 6 00:00:42.230 --> 00:00:48.250 -As I said, it's been decades of… Expertise in learning and fine-tuning. 7 00:00:48.430 --> 00:00:52.069 -And this is going to be the first pilot worldwide, ever. 8 00:00:53.300 --> 00:00:56.099 -So, to get started. 9 00:00:56.650 --> 00:01:03.779 -You need to see from your community, whether it's the parents, whether it's the committee, what relations you can place. 10 00:01:04.190 --> 00:01:13.779 -The modern topics is independent, it's completely up to equal society. It just shows some level of commitment and value of her time. 11 00:01:14.930 --> 00:01:23.999 -So that we can get started, those who cannot raise anything, you have to wait. But those who can raise something, message me privately. 12 00:01:24.410 --> 00:01:27.460 -Okay, and then she's ready to start with you. 13 00:01:28.330 --> 00:01:31.729 -Each session will be recorded. 14 00:01:32.720 --> 00:01:38.849 -And, it will be started as a very formal pilot exercise. At the end of the sixth month. 15 00:01:39.070 --> 00:01:43.000 -There will be a licensing agreement signed with you. 16 00:01:43.410 --> 00:01:48.769 -Where you will be the first remaining method early child education in your application form. 17 00:01:49.770 --> 00:01:54.109 -Okay? So they're just the very simple steps that need to be done. 18 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:59.909 -Through that, Your people take it very fiercely and attent. 19 00:02:00.830 --> 00:02:01.800 -And learn. 20 00:02:02.600 --> 00:02:06.640 -Okay, this is… this is invaluable information and guidance that she's giving. 21 00:02:06.970 --> 00:02:09.270 -She has already given so much of that. 22 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.289 -And now, because you're gonna settle down 2%. 23 00:02:12.580 --> 00:02:14.759 -And the center needs to be sustainable. 24 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:18.469 -Your peop… your community has to see value in it. 25 00:02:19.300 --> 00:02:23.770 -But soon, you'll be charging them for it, and you'll have to work out pricing. 26 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:29.220 -That you know best what the pricing would be, and then you'd love to suggest to us 27 00:02:29.480 --> 00:02:34.489 -When you're going to charge the parents, or whoever it is, and what grants? 28 00:02:35.160 --> 00:02:40.750 -Okay, that's… that's the essence I'm gonna say about the RED method. They are very… 29 00:02:41.200 --> 00:02:53.780 -to start. Was this, Patrick, your sound? Oh, very poor, can't hear… oh, you can't… you can't hear me? Okay, can it be transcribed so that Patrick can see, what you are seeing? 30 00:02:55.520 --> 00:03:02.009 -I will message him after this meeting then. Okay. The transcription will do the magic. 31 00:03:02.460 --> 00:03:06.590 -If it can be transcribed on this… There will be a transcription, yeah, we can do that. 32 00:03:06.890 --> 00:03:09.590 -You can do a transcription here? Okay, good. Yeah. 33 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:11.430 -Okay. 34 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:15.000 -So, cooler, you know, what do you feel? Literally, you know. 35 00:03:15.600 --> 00:03:22.669 -I… yes. The issue here is, it's like, 36 00:03:22.850 --> 00:03:25.109 -It's already difficult to raise a… 37 00:03:25.550 --> 00:03:28.870 -Money for progressive ideas like this. 38 00:03:29.060 --> 00:03:31.010 -Except when it involves… 39 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:42.669 -People getting the return instantly. And those who we were looking at to make the donation are not necessarily those who would benefit from the 40 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:48.559 -are in the middle, and then post the business. So, it's a tricky one. 41 00:03:48.560 --> 00:04:02.789 -What I… what I can say is that the donations who… of course, members of the local community, I mean, local who care, are always ready to make donations for… but when we convert the… 42 00:04:02.790 --> 00:04:10.240 -Whatever we donate, let's say we are able to, contribute 500,000 Naira, for instance, or 1 million Naira. 43 00:04:10.450 --> 00:04:15.609 -And we are converting it into dollars, it becomes workless. 44 00:04:16.140 --> 00:04:20.340 -Just tell me what the above is in US dollars. 45 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.339 -In US dollars, that would be… 46 00:04:23.880 --> 00:04:27.150 -I, I doubt if we can raise more than $200,000. 47 00:04:28.320 --> 00:04:29.580 -It is not true. 48 00:04:29.690 --> 00:04:33.460 -I would suggest to her, really, at least she knows it is something. 49 00:04:33.990 --> 00:04:34.840 -Okay. 50 00:04:35.010 --> 00:04:40.030 -You think worthless, worthless, doesn't matter. It is something. 51 00:04:40.370 --> 00:04:41.659 -It is a feed. 52 00:04:43.210 --> 00:04:47.579 -So you… Think about it, okay, for the next one week. 53 00:04:47.840 --> 00:05:00.929 -All right, discuss with the community. Say that this is something which is important, because, she's not just… this is years and years of education and training, and what you're going to create is something that will change lives. 54 00:05:02.010 --> 00:05:09.900 -It'll change lives, okay? It'll change your community. It is going to change your nation. Because even, like I said, even Singapore, they love them. 55 00:05:11.030 --> 00:05:14.039 -Malaysia, they're not done. These are advanced countries, they're not done. 56 00:05:14.830 --> 00:05:18.390 -Italy, they've not done this. UK, they've not done this yet. 57 00:05:18.930 --> 00:05:25.349 -we hope to introduce this in the UK also, but that's the UK's very strict system is the bureaucratic. 58 00:05:26.450 --> 00:05:31.900 -you know, Africa, you would… you are in the right state. 59 00:05:32.180 --> 00:05:34.290 -To make change in the education system. 60 00:05:34.630 --> 00:05:37.260 -Because it is not so fixed. 61 00:05:38.060 --> 00:05:42.670 -You, in fact, you can go much further than some of the countries. 62 00:05:42.850 --> 00:05:46.259 -It'd be amazing. Can you imagine that… that Africa… 63 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:52.859 -can be more advanced, more advanced countries now, because you… you are raw. 64 00:05:53.090 --> 00:05:59.570 -And ready for the, you know, for the best kind of education. So, be prepared with that mindset. 65 00:05:59.890 --> 00:06:02.629 -There is… there's a great revival for Africa. 66 00:06:03.090 --> 00:06:14.970 -As I was shared, and many people will share, okay? So think about it, don't ever look at Africa as a poor country, the source poor country, that you're behind, you're not. 67 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.700 -You're not… you're in the right time. 68 00:06:17.870 --> 00:06:21.750 -Yes, anybody else want to share what is this? From David Winter? 69 00:06:22.330 --> 00:06:23.530 -Thank you. 70 00:06:23.750 --> 00:06:28.775 -It's reiterating your point that $200 is a demonstration of… Yes. 71 00:06:31.100 --> 00:06:55.780 -It's a start. Yeah, that's it. Eventually, money will come from the agriculture and from the workings of the society itself. This is just a start to show that commitment. Otherwise, you're talking into a vacuum, you know, Dr. Rini doesn't know whether she's just wasting her time there, but if that amount… we all know how difficult it is to raise that $200 in terms, you know, in the Nigerian currency, and so that is the commitment 72 00:06:55.780 --> 00:07:01.129 -to that is enough, I think, for her to carry on and do what she needs to do. 73 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:12.700 -Yeah, yeah, okay. So that is clear, you recorded that. The second thing I want to share, is that how we're going to structure our work for Friday meetings? 74 00:07:13.150 --> 00:07:15.579 -Okay? We would like… 75 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:24.689 -it to be… so far we've been having, like, short half-an-hour meetings, you know, and some… some specific things to talk about. Now, what we want to do. 76 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:30.480 -And that we, want to be able to make it 77 00:07:30.620 --> 00:07:36.770 -look at all the four verticals. So we have the expert, like, Leif will come in for 78 00:07:37.050 --> 00:07:41.919 -the sustainable agriculture. And he will invite 79 00:07:42.650 --> 00:07:48.579 -Those local farmers who are making… who are… who are equipped with so much information. 80 00:07:49.210 --> 00:07:50.330 -Experts. 81 00:07:50.850 --> 00:08:00.110 -expertise in Africa, like, for example, Evelyn. So he will direct and also bring in the tips. So this means that every time you come for the Friday meeting. 82 00:08:00.520 --> 00:08:06.120 -You will be guided on all the four verticals, so the meetings will be extended, But… 83 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:13.640 -It is something which… which, when you come, you will learn, and you will give feedback. 84 00:08:13.770 --> 00:08:24.330 -And so that you don't make the same mistakes as some of the other ecosyeties, because they have far ahead, some of them are far further ahead, and they have learned, and they've burnt. 85 00:08:24.460 --> 00:08:28.540 -But they would share, okay? So this means that you… 86 00:08:28.870 --> 00:08:35.790 -Bring as many of your EcoSciety Committee members to attend the Friday meeting, so it becomes 87 00:08:35.909 --> 00:08:41.250 -More structured, it will not be half an hour, one hour, probably two hours, because we've got 4 segments. 88 00:08:41.490 --> 00:08:44.230 -Okay? And then the same time. 89 00:08:44.420 --> 00:08:49.270 -David Winter has got the PHC system, which he's going to 90 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:59.099 -hopefully finalize everything so that it becomes a place where you can give rigid feedback, and it becomes very automated, so we have a system 91 00:08:59.460 --> 00:09:00.949 -Okay, through the PHC. 92 00:09:01.180 --> 00:09:06.640 -hopefully in the next two weeks, all completely done. It's taken a little bit of time, but you understand it's not simple. 93 00:09:06.750 --> 00:09:11.680 -And then we have the weekly meetings every Friday, which… where you can take verbal feedback. 94 00:09:12.230 --> 00:09:19.210 -Okay? And then, you have your EU society groups. So then… 95 00:09:19.580 --> 00:09:25.319 -With the weekly meetings, we will also guide you so that you know what you need to do for the next coming week. 96 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:34.720 -So you're not lost, you're not off the path, you're not deviating, you know what needs to be done. We want you to be empowered. 97 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:40.069 -Okay, so that you empower others in your community of you. 98 00:09:41.780 --> 00:09:59.410 -You are a mirror of us, okay? You are a mirror… you will have all the knowledge within your mind, then you can pass it on to your community. And that happens. You need to share that with your ecosyciety community members, that we want you to be a mirror of our mind. 99 00:10:04.160 --> 00:10:06.650 -Any, David Winter, Leif, you want to share anything? 100 00:10:08.760 --> 00:10:13.290 -Yeah, I can say that, the weekly meetings, what I'm envisaging is, like, a dashboard 101 00:10:13.290 --> 00:10:31.320 -four-quadrant dashboard with each of the verticals, and so we go in there, and then the dashboard will have, current concerns, you know, actions, timed, and so we can go into that and use it as a formal concerns management meeting with all of the societies at the top level. 102 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:55.270 -So, and then when we've left the meeting, that's the most important thing, because people can work on what is discussed at the meeting, so the next meeting will be action-packed and concise, and so that, you know, we're building on what's being done during the meeting. That's all I want to say, but, you know, it's pretty difficult to elicit until you see it, so, you know, hopefully in the next week or two, that will exist, so we can at least start it. 103 00:10:56.430 --> 00:10:57.270 -Yes. 104 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.750 -I wanted to ask you, David Winter, like, about attending… 105 00:11:02.060 --> 00:11:05.369 -The meetings, would there be part of the time chunk? 106 00:11:06.300 --> 00:11:13.379 -Oh, yeah, anything anyone does that they can consider to be part of the work is a time junk. 107 00:11:13.380 --> 00:11:28.199 -put it down. Now, the difference between time chunks in payment terms and sharing terms is there. So the time… so the time… everyone will have an allocated time chunk that they will do for the work, for payment. 108 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:36.519 -But they're quite welcome. Everyone's quite welcome to do many more time chunks than they get paid for. That's what life is about in the community, that sense. 109 00:11:36.520 --> 00:12:01.279 -But, the… but every time chunk people do, every time someone makes a time junk, then it will be, considered for sharing as well. And so that, again, is a commitment, a sign of commitment to the society that you're doing. So, I mean, the short answer, yes, you know, the time chunk system will take care of all of that, but everybody, no matter what you do, which is considered to be part of the ecosystematic work. 110 00:12:01.370 --> 00:12:18.800 -put it down as a time chunk, because the… when you put that down as a time chunk, and you're doing a message, that helps the wider understanding of what you've been doing, and what everyone's been doing, and so that's important, you know, so you can steer how it goes. And again, you need to also that. 111 00:12:18.800 --> 00:12:27.230 -Okay, so, so, Cosmos, you see, the thing is, I just, I realized that people have been convinced by the time zone. 112 00:12:27.460 --> 00:12:33.450 -And even though, yeah, I had to actually tell them it's actually one hour shift today. 113 00:12:34.100 --> 00:12:36.340 -We are, we're entering into winter. 114 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.480 -Good to see Cosmos. Cosmos is from Cameroon. 115 00:12:40.490 --> 00:12:42.190 -How are you doing, Cosmos? 116 00:12:43.330 --> 00:12:53.150 -Oh, fine, thank you. Yeah. Good morning from Cameroon. Good morning, Cosmos. We actually already shared a few things. 117 00:12:53.450 --> 00:12:57.060 -So I would like to, go through the reporting. 118 00:12:57.370 --> 00:13:17.280 -Okay. Finally important, as we take the meetings, and actually not just the meetings, the whole project at the next level now, okay? Because there's so many ecosystemies forming. Now we take the next level, I would like to introduce you to leave past moves from the 119 00:13:17.300 --> 00:13:27.350 -sustainable agriculture, basically based in Denmark, and he will guide At the top level, on these, 120 00:13:27.750 --> 00:13:37.550 -the guidance and all that, everything that needed. And, how are we going to restructure this, into maybe two-hour meetings? 121 00:13:37.690 --> 00:13:43.790 -And the systems from, David Winter's side, the report, so that 122 00:13:44.630 --> 00:13:52.559 -The projects can go ahead very systematically, online, verbally, In the system, all recorded. 123 00:13:52.770 --> 00:14:00.100 -Minimize problems, and sharing of tips from the other farmers who are ahead. 124 00:14:00.470 --> 00:14:02.650 -So that you can get started, like, you know. 125 00:14:02.930 --> 00:14:07.700 -I know for your ecosyeties, agriculture is part of it, right? 126 00:14:08.040 --> 00:14:11.269 -If you don't have enough expertise. Councillor, we can't hear you. 127 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:16.700 -Yeah, I say agriculture is the major… aspect of… 128 00:14:17.260 --> 00:14:24.150 -You mentioned that you got an offer for a very large amount of land, or is it still going on, or something like that? 129 00:14:24.450 --> 00:14:32.249 -Yeah, yeah, the, the, there's land available, in various places, 130 00:14:33.400 --> 00:14:39.160 -I think, personally, I have some land, and then there's an offer for 10 hectares. 131 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:40.400 -Hmm. 132 00:14:40.520 --> 00:14:47.040 -Yeah, offer for 10 acres. I'm currently working with a team, and we are looking at 133 00:14:47.170 --> 00:14:53.590 -Building a system to purchasing, 250 hectares of land. 134 00:14:54.350 --> 00:14:57.180 -We are currently on that project right now. 135 00:14:58.750 --> 00:15:07.630 -So we are going to have part of the land for housing, part for agriculture, part for school, and other things. 136 00:15:09.380 --> 00:15:14.159 -So, I think that's the thing, Leif, is that they need to be guided. They have… 137 00:15:15.160 --> 00:15:21.950 -on what to produce. They probably have some… they have some ideas, what to produce, how to get started, like, the basic things. 138 00:15:23.510 --> 00:15:29.520 -And, yeah, so, how to actually get started? 139 00:15:29.670 --> 00:15:34.620 -We have current information, which I… on the system, we have some guidelines I've given them. 140 00:15:34.810 --> 00:15:40.010 -And the other thing is that with the housing part, are we bringing in 141 00:15:40.540 --> 00:15:44.109 -Bioarchitects and experts, the next meeting. 142 00:15:44.420 --> 00:15:49.999 -I hope all of you want to meet with them. Leo Walt, I live in Chicago, Doug Benjamin. 143 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:55.390 -type Adobe Homes, this will be all involved, yeah. So… 144 00:15:56.610 --> 00:16:00.969 -basically is helping you guys get started, yeah. Leif, you want to say anything? 145 00:16:03.220 --> 00:16:10.050 -I think when it comes to starting, it is clear that the most important thing is that everybody can get food. 146 00:16:10.170 --> 00:16:14.250 -And, and in a, in a, in a sustainable way. 147 00:16:14.490 --> 00:16:18.190 -So when it comes to starting on the… on the farming. 148 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:21.920 -on the farming project, what I would like that we take 149 00:16:22.010 --> 00:16:27.269 -look at, first of all, that is, that we bear in mind that 150 00:16:27.350 --> 00:16:44.329 -the biological cycle in nature, that is what is actually producing food. This is soil, plant, animals. And when we make a farming system, we have to think that in. This is by far the most productive thing we have. 151 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:51.189 -We have to be very careful, even me, have to be careful. My head is full of files of production is thinking. 152 00:16:51.640 --> 00:16:54.919 -But we always have to think, what is the next 153 00:16:55.160 --> 00:16:59.360 -would link into production in this period of cycle. 154 00:17:00.680 --> 00:17:05.919 -It's very good to have, to, to, to get, to get lands. 155 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:12.910 -And, I have the best experiments when we can get lands, if we can make some 156 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:30.269 -some sort of community groups, and so people can work together in the village and try to lift it. And again, of course, I don't have to tell you, Rabbit, but it is… it is very, very important for everybody to think of starting with what the farmers are already doing. 157 00:17:31.050 --> 00:17:46.240 -And we need to know the tradition, the culture in the place. We need to know the soil. Is it turning north-south? What is it compared to the sun? There are so many things we have to get down to the ground and look at it. 158 00:17:46.370 --> 00:18:02.419 -this is, as you can hear, I will have many concerns, many things. I go out and I look at… I look at an area of a farm. I see pictures in front of me, flashing up. 159 00:18:02.790 --> 00:18:08.099 -probably do the same thing, rather than a lot of people which are working with farming and having leather. 160 00:18:08.250 --> 00:18:13.119 -But it is so difficult to make it. That's why when we have these Friday meetings here. 161 00:18:13.270 --> 00:18:20.929 -One of the things I've been talking about today is that I would really like to take in somebody that are doing well. 162 00:18:20.990 --> 00:18:25.810 -In terms of some of the ideas we like to implement. 163 00:18:25.870 --> 00:18:43.679 -some person from one of the societies, even an individual farmer, things like that, to hold off, because it's very nice what I can tell about people. And I have experience from all over the world, and I have groups where I talk to people from all over the world every single day. 164 00:18:44.110 --> 00:18:47.489 -But it's still not the same as the farmer which are growing the pineapple. 165 00:18:48.370 --> 00:18:51.990 -To be honest with you. Oh, good. Any… 166 00:18:52.940 --> 00:18:56.009 -Can… can I just ship in something? 167 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:10.699 -I listened to Cosmos from Cameroon. Cosmos, please, I sent a message that if you had me on WhatsApp, I need to talk to you about the agriculture. And so, my little inputs into this, agricultural something is that, 168 00:19:11.530 --> 00:19:18.460 -If you were in Nigeria, I would just have asked you not to purchase the entire 250 acres, because that would be… 169 00:19:18.950 --> 00:19:21.000 -a big investment. 170 00:19:21.270 --> 00:19:29.210 -Because even the land tenure system in Nigeria means that the government owns all the land. And when you give a good proposal. 171 00:19:29.350 --> 00:19:44.629 -that shows, food, production sustainability, leading to food security and safety, the government will be ready to give you the land for a fee. And that fee. 172 00:19:45.170 --> 00:19:47.350 -Most probably could be… 173 00:19:47.500 --> 00:19:57.330 -a rich in such a way that you pay after the harvest, or you don't pay at all, because you are now helping the society. As a farmer. 174 00:19:57.570 --> 00:20:00.979 -who has done farming coral is like, I… 175 00:20:01.860 --> 00:20:06.490 -When I… when I presented my proposal on the Eco building. 176 00:20:06.620 --> 00:20:15.169 -I made it in such a way that the 100 buildings with each family having at least one acre of land. 177 00:20:15.530 --> 00:20:26.369 -been cultivated, so that it will be a farming society. You can't make echo buildings without considering the economic activities of people who will be living there. 178 00:20:26.510 --> 00:20:38.420 -If they… if you don't do that, they will go out in the morning to find their delivery bread, and they will come back, this is Africa, they will come back to make their buildings empty. 179 00:20:39.030 --> 00:20:40.829 -by wood loans. 180 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:49.260 -But when they have their economic activities around their dwelling places, then you have succeeded in creating a community. 181 00:20:49.380 --> 00:21:00.089 -an ecosystem that can be replicated elsewhere. In Germany, the goal is the family funds, model funds that can be clustered together. 182 00:21:00.940 --> 00:21:06.829 -All this, you and I will be responsive via WhatsApp outside this station. 183 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:20.970 -You know, you know, you know the way the… the system of how things operate in Nigeria are totally different from how they operate here in Cameroon. I have, I have… 184 00:21:22.710 --> 00:21:25.490 -We can't do that separately outside the station, no problem. 185 00:21:26.100 --> 00:21:27.130 -Alright. 186 00:21:27.780 --> 00:21:34.530 -Yeah, I'm glad you did that, Kola. You've got to connect with everybody, and guide each other. 187 00:21:35.260 --> 00:21:38.930 -That celebrates things very well, so you give them connection with each other, good. 188 00:21:44.780 --> 00:21:48.300 -restructure the meetings from next Friday. 189 00:21:48.930 --> 00:21:52.280 -Okay? Based on the four verticals. 190 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:55.670 -And you see how it is going to be laid out. 191 00:21:56.120 --> 00:22:03.370 -And we… this is how we will move on to the next. We've been evolving as a project. 192 00:22:03.940 --> 00:22:09.070 -And I'm very positive that we'll see the next level of evolution as we move further. 193 00:22:09.830 --> 00:22:15.480 -people, more, well-run project. 194 00:22:15.830 --> 00:22:19.990 -And clarity. Any final words? 195 00:22:20.570 --> 00:22:24.059 -We close off, I'll share this with anyone. 196 00:22:24.740 --> 00:22:33.570 -Those who missed… missed the first part, please listen to it, because I shared about the method and some commitment from your side. 197 00:22:34.520 --> 00:22:35.800 -We're able to do that. 198 00:22:37.270 --> 00:22:59.629 -David Winter, you want to share anything? Yeah, one final thing for me. That interaction between Corla and Rabbi was very interesting, because with each of the locations, there's going to be particular, criteria that have to be worked, and everywhere is going to be different. Those are two regions which are different, and everywhere is going to have its own problems, including, UK. 199 00:22:59.630 --> 00:23:16.649 -And so, that's great, so thanks for raising that, both of you, and as you say, it could be taken offline, but mostly it could be taken, during the project planning for each core verticals, which we will be, displaying through the PHC, dashboards, each of the, 200 00:23:16.650 --> 00:23:27.109 -For any meetings. That's all from me. I think, thanks very much, Tahira. I think, one question I had was, about the number of, people, number of people 201 00:23:27.110 --> 00:23:43.130 -It's doing a commitment, that can, that can start the reading method. I think we're still… we haven't… we haven't got a number yet, have we? But I think if it's 2 or 3, 4, maybe, there should be some criteria where we can start. 202 00:23:43.130 --> 00:23:46.099 -These three, at least 3 should start, at least. 203 00:23:46.250 --> 00:24:04.900 -Okay, because 3 gives a good forum for the, the two-hour meetings, and it makes it worthwhile for Dr. Ring's time. We have Singapore. Yeah. Okay, that's really important, and if we have, Polas, Nigeria, there's one more, all right? Like I said, the amount you just discussed with me privately. 204 00:24:05.020 --> 00:24:07.280 -It's alright. Okay, stopping. 205 00:24:08.780 --> 00:24:10.200 -Very good. That's all from me. 206 00:24:10.430 --> 00:24:15.360 -Thank you very much, everybody. Okay, thank you. Bye, have a great weekend. 207 00:24:15.860 --> 00:24:17.030 -Bye-bye.